| Mike Watt |
Interview by
Tate Hemlock 11/20/04 |
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Mike Watt was a
founding member and bass player for the seminal punk band the
Minutemen. The Minutemen started in 1980 and came to an untimely
end in 1985 when guitarist D. Boon was killed in a car accident.
During that time period the Minutemen tore apart punk, rock,
funk and jazz and then put it back together again in their own
manner. Though the Minutemen didn’t write verses and choruses,
each of their songs is a satisfying composition and during their
brief existence they released some of the most important and
influential punk or post-punk records of all time including the
ambitious double record set Double
Nickels on the Dime. After D. Boon’s death, Watt
considered giving up music but was coaxed into starting the band
fIREHOSE with a Minutemen fan from Ohio named Ed Crawford.
fIREHOSE were an exceptional live band and on album remained
unpretentious and ambitious, willing to let the musical muse
take them in any direction whatsoever. fIREHOSE released 5
acclaimed records before calling it a day in 1993. Since that
time Mike Watt has performed and released records under his own
name as well as performing bass duties for a reconstituted Iggy
and the Stooges. As a blue-collar hero in an art-school world,
Mike Watt has always inspired me. I’ve always admired him for
being approachable and for telling his audiences to go out and
make music or films or write stories and be creative. He has
always been very humble on stage despite being the most amazing
bass player I’ve ever seen in person. Mike Watt is truly the
punk rock ideal in the flesh. I’m honored to have had the
opportunity to talk to someone who always tells it like it is
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did you first pick up the thumpstaff (bass) and what drew
you to that particular instrument?
13
years old. D. Boon’s mother made me play it. She wanted us to
have a band after school and stay out of trouble! She wanted us
to stay in the house. I’d just met D. Boon and he was already
playing guitar. He didn’t really know rock, his Daddy was way
into Buck Owens so we learned all the Creedence which is why I
wear flannel. I like bass though. Politically it’s great to be
in a band on bass. It’s mysterious. You look good making the
other guys look good. It was strictly kind of personal because I
wanted to be with my friend. It was a personal thing. I played
him Cream and Who, Alice Cooper and T. Rex. Blue Oyster Cult.
I’ve been playing them all these years. We’re gonna play
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The
Minutemen in 1980 (D. Boon, Watt & George
Hurley)
Photo by Marty Lyon |
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What
other instruments can you play if any?
I
can play a little mandolin, a little guitar. I can’t
really use a pick. But I mainly play bass! |
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I
was really disappointed I didn’t get to see you play with
the Stooges. Are you still playing with the Stooges?
I
still am. We’ve done 27 gigs and we’re going to do more. We
haven’t done too many gigs. Coachella, All Tomorrow’s
Parties in Long Beach, New Orleans Voodoo Fest, some stuff in
New York City and Detroit of course. |
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Mike Watt in 1987
Photo by Marty Lyon

Mike Watt in
1994
Photo by John Eder

Mike Watt in 2002
Photo by Elena Perez
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What
were your main influences at the time the Minutemen started
and what inspires you today?
Of
course punk bands we heard and saw in Hollywood. Heard on
records from England. Pop Group and Wire were huge influences on
the records with the Minutemen. Live…Germs, Dils. Huge. What
inspires me today? Usually…people. Sort’ve like when I
started with D. Boon like...whoah! I wanna play with this guy!
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Iggy
Pop and Mike Watt
2002
Photo by Kristin Kumamoto |
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I
want to hang out with him. He was way into history and he got me
reading non-fiction. You just get into people and their
personalities. To me the personal thing is always important.
Bass, guitar they’re only machines, you gotta make them
breathe. And that means you gotta get like fired up. It’s not
the machine itself. |
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So
when did you discover punk then? Was it your close proximity
to the Hollywood punk scene?
Yeah,
the drummer from the Weirdoes was from (San) Pedro and he was
walking around town with a Kotex (?) wrapped around his neck and
he said there was this place where people write their own songs
because in arena rock, dudes didn’t write songs. So we were
really attracted to that. You have to understand that the
culture was very different from what it is today. You can’t
even think of that today because everybody writes songs, in
those days no one did. Only the rock stars! |
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Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime (SST 1984) |
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Old
punk had that whole D.I.Y. aesthetic that seems to be
missing today. Why do you think that was or is?
No!
I still do it. And I’ve met young people…Raoul the drummer
is twenty years younger than me and he’s part of a scene in
Pedro in fact. And they do it. I think you’re talking about
the pop-punk thing and that’s gonna happen to anything. You
gotta understand that Pat Boone sold more tunes than Little
Richard did 50 years ago It’s this old thing to co-opt
movements. Right? But at the same time, there’s an
underground. |
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I
saw this fIREHOSE Promo video where you, Flea, Cris Kirkwood
(Meat Puppets) and Les Claypool (Primus) were sitting around
talking about bass and you said that you didn’t come from
a musical background and that it was like you had to get on
a bike and fall off a couple times (“I still am,” says
Watt). You felt it came naturally to D. Boon, do you still
feel this way about the bass?
Yeah,
most of the time! (Laughs). But that’s okay, you know?
Everybody’s coming into the world with certain things but you
also can just try. But you know like riding a bike, you don’t
fall down like as much! A lot of momentum was built up playing
with D. Boon. Even when I’m weak it carries me through. |
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fIREHOSE
1st Ever Gig 1986
Photo courtesy
of Mike Watt |
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Why
do you believe the Minutemen were so prolific (like 12
records in 5 years!)? I listen to Double
Nickels on the Dime and I’m blown away by how you were
able to do something like that so quickly.
We
had a lot of things on our mind. You know we wanted to do as
much as we could. I’m trying to get back to that. I’m gonna
try to make an album in a year now. This new record we did
pretty quick too. Once we did it. So that hasn’t changed. |
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You
tour almost constantly. Do you prefer touring or recording
in a studio?
My
father was a sailor. I think it’s in my blood. I like playing
other towns and the journey, the traveling. You get to be like
Don Quixote. And you get to play for different people. Because
all the different people you meet can teach you something. Like
right now, your little spiel with me, I’m gonna learn
something. It’s a very interesting thing instead of just
staying in Pedro. I like to be in my town but I like to sally
forth too. |
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I
loved fIREHOSE and saw you guys nearly a dozen times. Why
did fIREHOSE come to an end?
We
did seven and half years, seven records and a lot of tours. Ed
(Crawford) lives in North Carolina now. And when I go through he
usually plays with me. He has his own band now called Grand
National. Good man. He helped me a lot especially after losing
D. Boon. |
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Mike
Watt's Latest is The Secondman's Middle Stand |
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Mike talked with
me a great deal more about D. Boon, Minutemen producer Spot,
recording in Hollywood, hanging out with Sonic Youth, playing
music for kids and even some politics. I was pretty sick a
couple times over the holiday and hope to continue transcribing
as soon as possible. Regardless, I really had a great time with
this interview and I hope some of these highlights show what a
great, compassionate artist Mike Watt truly is. |
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Special thanks to Mike Watt
for the use of many pictures from his website. Thanks as well go
out to the original photographers. Please check out the link to
Mike Watt's website below. |
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